Behavioral Grooves Podcast

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Stories, science and secrets from the world’s brightest thought-leaders. Behavioral Grooves is the podcast that satisfies your curiosity of why we do what we do. Explanations of human behavior that will improve your relationships, your wellbeing, and your organization by helping you find your groove.

Episodes

Sunday Nov 24, 2019

Katy Milkman: Behavior Change for Good

Sunday Nov 24, 2019

Katy Milkman is no ordinary behavioral scientist. She’s a Professor of Operations, Information and Decisions at Wharton and has a secondary faculty appointment in the University of Pennsylvania’s Medical School in the Department of Medical Ethics and Health Policy. She’s Co-Director, with Angela Duckworth, at the non-profit Behavior Change for Good Initiative. She’s the host of one of our favorite podcasts, called Choiceology, she is in the middle of writing a book, and she’s a Mom and Partner all at the same time.

We are grateful to her for taking time to record a conversation with us about her work on temptation bundling, the sorts of projects she’s getting at the Behavior Change for Good organization, and a few tidbits about what her book, coming out in 2021, will have in store for the readers.

Most importantly, Katy shared three important pieces of wisdom about behavior change during our conversation:

Behavior change is hard – cut yourself some slack.
We humans are not built to do the right thing all the time.
Just keep trying.

Stay tuned for our BONUS TRACK at the end where we review key takeaways and offer up a Groove idea for the week!

NOTE: This podcast was recorded before Katy Milkman became a podcast phenom of her own and the audio quality in this episode, to put it diplomatically, lacks sparkle. However, we talked to Katy again in episode 232 and we think you’ll the conversation and audio much better there:

Katy Milkman: How to Make Healthy Habits that Actually Last: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/katy-milkman-habits-that-last/

Links

Katy Milkman, PhD: http://www.katherinemilkman.com/

Katy Milkman – Twitter: @katy_milkman

Behavior Change for Good: https://bcfg.wharton.upenn.edu/

Choiceology podcast: https://www.schwab.com/resource-center/insights/podcast

Temptation Bundling: https://mayooshin.com/temptation-bundling/

Fresh Start Effect: https://faculty.wharton.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Dai_Fresh_Start_2014_Mgmt_Sci.pdf

Charles Duhigg: https://charlesduhigg.com/

BJ Fogg Maui Habit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L1R7OtJhWs

Robert Cialdini, PhD: https://www.robertcialdinibf.com/

Francesca Gino, PhD: https://francescagino.com/

Angela Duckworth, PhD: https://angeladuckworth.com/

Kurt Nelson: kurt@lanterngroup.com

Tim Houlihan: tim@behavioralchemy.com

Musical Links

Michael Jackson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson

Taylor Swift: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift

Sunday Nov 17, 2019

Chris Nave: Educating BeSci Practitioners at UPenn

Sunday Nov 17, 2019

Chris Nave, PhD is the Associate Director of the Master of Behavioral and Decision Sciences Program at the University of Pennsylvania. We caught up with Chris at the NoBeC conference (Norms and Behavioral Change Conference) at UPenn. NoBeC brought together some of the brightest researchers in the field and we got to attend!

The Master of Behavioral and Decision Sciences program is in its 3^rd year with 75 students from 12 countries. The students come from jobs in restaurants, fire stations, small businesses, and global corporations and they intend to leave UPenn with an understanding of what it means to be a behavioral scientist, but not actually BE one.

We met Chris through our friend, Jeff Kreisler, and we instantly connected as members of the same tribe. But it was even cooler when Chris invited us to attend the conference and to record conversations with some of the researchers.

This episode is the cornerstone of the series we recorded at the University of Pennsylvania and we are excited to share an over of the master’s program from Chris Nave.

Links

Chris Nave: cnave@upenn.edu

UPenn Masters of Behavioral Change Program: https://www.sas.upenn.edu/lps/graduate/mbds/contact

Piyush Tantia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piyush-tantia-4727b74/

Musical Links

Baby Shark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrplOhMSoDU

The Cure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCKLJGLENs

Red Hot Chili Peppers “Dark Necessity”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWioV5tO1lk

Miley Cyrus “Party in the USA”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA

AFI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yzu-4kJg6g

Vivaldi “Four Seasons”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnDLlajMxyo

Sunday Nov 10, 2019

Chris Brown: Avalanches and System 1 Thinking

Sunday Nov 10, 2019

Chris Brown is in human risk management and practice is set in backcountry snow. He grew up outside of Philadelphia and after graduating with a degree in Urban Design/Architecture, he moved to Utah to pursue certification with the AMGA (American Mountain Guides Association) in avalanche training.

Chris works as a ski guide and avalanche/snow science professional, but his real job is helping skiers overcome their biases. He incorporates the work of Kahneman and Tversky, Richard Thaler and other great researchers into his classes and we found his intentionality in decision making noteworthy.

We had a great conversation with Chris and we also want to express our gratitude to friend and colleague, Ben Granlund, for connecting us with Chris. Ben attended one of Chris’ classes and found it so engaging that he referred us to Chris. Ben was also delighted that Chris relies heavily on behavioral science and reminds us that the biggest threat to your life in avalanche country is your own decision making.

After our recording stopped, we discussed Guide Services for training. If you are interested, check out AMGA (amga.com) and the American Avalanche Association: https://www.americanavalancheassociation.org/

Links

Chris Brown Email: chrisbr862@gmail.com

Chris Brown Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cbskiclimb/

Ian McCammon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKeoF53syKw

Phil Tetlock “Super Forecasters”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5Gicb66WA

Familiarity Bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familiarity_heuristic

Expert Halo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

System 1 / System 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow

Premortem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-mortem

Bruce Tremper: https://backcountrymagazine.com/stories/video-avalanche-expert-bruce-tremper-risk/

Bayesian Decision Making: https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Bayesian_decision_theory

First Tracks: https://www.boston.com/culture/ski-guru/2012/01/31/its_all_about_f

Laurence Gonzales “Deep Survival”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTyfvOrEm1w

Wicked Learning Environments: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5c5d/33b858eaf38f6a14b3f042202f1f44e04326.pdf

Daniel Kahneman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman

The Tao of Wu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tao_of_Wu

Kurt Nelson: @motivationguru

Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan

Musical Links

Hip Hop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop

Reggae: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggae

Classical Music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music

Death Metal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_metal

Steel Pulse: https://steelpulse.com/

Wu Tang Clan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194

MadLib: https://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib

Gang Starr: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/gang-starr-guru-bad-name-video-909996/

John Coltrane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH3mb3oXCpw

Marcus Miller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kCi-SsYD5s

Stanley Clarke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcuigwtdzS4

Bela Fleck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIfFIEeZjw

Victor Wooten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzL4BkqmzDQ

Herbie Hancock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHhD4PD75zY

Saturday Nov 02, 2019

Zarak Khan and Erik Johnson: Action Design Network and Beyond

Saturday Nov 02, 2019

Sometimes things just go better in twos and that was the case regarding our guests for this episode. Zarak Kahn is the Behavioral Innovation Director at Maritz and Erik Johnson is an independent Behavioral Science Consultant. They are the co-hosts of Action Design Radio and board members at Action Design Network. Kurt and Tim have known them as coaches and colleagues and wanted to talk to them about all of that.

We discussed how the application of behavioral science continues to grow in both the corporate and policy words. Today, there are more jobs, more workshops, more bachelor's programs, more masters programs, more PhD programs, more meetups and more bootcamps than ever before. We expressed our collective desires to make behavioral science so easy to do it will be ingrained into every job from UX to Marketing to HR, and how we’d like to see people applying a behavioral lens in all of their decision-making.

In our grooving session, Kurt and Tim emphasized the importance of expanding the community of people applying behavioral science and we are grateful to share the mantle with very bright and fine folk like Erik and Zarak.

Links

Erik Johnson Twitter: https://twitter.com/erikleejohnson

Erik Johnson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikleejohnson/

Erik Johnson Website: erikj.net

Zarak Kahn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khanzarak/

Action Design Network: http://www.action-design.org/

Action Design Radio (podcast): https://actiondesignradio.libsyn.com/

Robert Cialdini: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini

Dan Kahneman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman

Richard Thaler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Thaler

Cass Sunstein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein

Musical Links

Idles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuQG6_evFc8

Local Natives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Natives

Lana Del Rey: https://lanadelrey.com/

Carley Rae Jepson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

Wye Oak “The Louder I Call the Faster it Runs”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO7ffikJOE4

Sylvan Esso: http://www.sylvanesso.com/

Johnny Flynn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Flynn_%26_The_Sussex_Wit

Sharon Van Etten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7sTHoeH0eA

Gillian Welch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_nWPxrzmE

M Ward: https://mwardmusic.com/

The National: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIWmRbHDhGw

Sunday Oct 27, 2019

Victoria Shaffer: End of Life Decision Tools

Sunday Oct 27, 2019

Victoria Shaffer is a researcher and professor at the University of Missouri. Victoria focuses on applying decision psychology and behavioral economics to medical decision making. In particular, she is researching judgment and decision making and how they impact the design of patient decision support tools.

Tim and Victoria met working on a field research project with Dan Ariely, PhD because of her work on non-monetary rewards with Scott Jeffrey, PhD. She was pushing back on common sense preferences, such as money is the best motivator, just as she is today with her work in the medical field.

Our conversation with Victoria began on familiar ground: the preference for cash as a reward and how it’s actually less effective than non-monetary rewards in incentive schemes. But we soon turned to the very personal journey of how she and her mother dealt with decisions surrounding her father’s diagnosis with cancer. Her personal journey became the foundation for important research to help patients, their loved ones and the caregivers communicate more effectively through stories.

It’s a fascinating discussion and we hope you enjoy it.

Links

Victoria Shaffer: https://psychology.missouri.edu/people/shaffer

Shelly Taylor on Biases and Mental Health: http://humancond.org/_media/papers/taylor_brown_88_illusion_and_well_being.pdf

Hal Arkes: https://psychology.osu.edu/people/arkes.1

Decision Support Tools: https://www.healthit.gov/topic/safety/clinical-decision-support

“Being Mortal” by Atul Gawande: http://atulgawande.com/book/being-mortal/

MD Anderson Cancer Center: https://www.mdanderson.org/

Advance Directives: https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/advance-care-planning-healthcare-directives

Palliative Care: https://getpalliativecare.org/whatis/

Peter Ubel – Duke: https://www.fuqua.duke.edu/faculty/peter-ubel

Affective Forecasting Errors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affective_forecasting

Columbia Records: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Records

Dan Gilbert: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Gilbert_(psychologist)

Kurt Nelson, PhD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtwnelson/

Tim Houlihan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-houlihan-b-e/

Music

Van Halen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X6e7uctAww

Black Sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s7_WbiR79E

Ozzy Osbourne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtHEN518VCM

Styx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcKBmdfpWs

Depeche Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diT3FvDHMyo

The Cure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXCKLJGLENs

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ9NaqjeDGU

James Taylor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWGK_fWKb4U

Sunday Oct 20, 2019

Grooving: UPenn Norms and Behavioral Change Workshop

Sunday Oct 20, 2019

Kurt and Tim were invited to attend the Norms and Behavioral Change (NoBeC) workshop at the University of Pennsylvania on October 17 and 18, 2019, and what we experienced blew us away. We were impressed with a terrific diversity of academic fields studying social norms, the great work they are doing, and the generosity of the community (at UPenn as well as the behavioral science researchers from around the world).

This gathering was very different from industry assemblies we’ve attended, which in and of itself was not a surprise. However, there were three noteworthy differences. First, the lineup of speakers was heavily weighted toward researchers with findings on projects involving social norms. Second, academic audience members held speakers accountable for rigorous processes and the descriptions of their results. Lastly, the Q&A at the end of each presentation was filled with animated questions from economists, behavioral economists, sociologists, political scientists, philosophers, strategists, law professors, and of course, psychologists. The cross-disciplinary aspect of this group reinforced the need for more diverse thinking in the business world.

We came away with a greater appreciation of the role that social norms play in our behaviors and decision making as well as the tremendous research that’s being conducted on related topics.

We will be publishing our series of interviews with researchers from the workshop in the coming weeks, and we hope you enjoy them as much as we did.

Links

University of Pennsylvania Master of Behavioral and Decision Sciences: https://www.sas.upenn.edu/lps/graduate/mbds

Sunday Oct 13, 2019

Paul Hebert: 7 Deadly Incentive Sins

Sunday Oct 13, 2019

Paul Hebert knows incentives. He is the Vice President of Individual Performance Strategy at Creative Group, Inc. and a writer, speaker and consultant and is widely considered an expert on motivation and incentives focused on influencing behaviors that drive business results. Paul has been interviewed by the BBC and USA TODAY because of his work applying solid psychological theory to sales motivation.

Paul, Kurt and Tim recently co-authored an eBook called “The 7 Deadly Sins to Avoid in Your Next Sales Incentive.” The purpose was to help sales managers who are struggling to maximize their effort and results when they use sales incentives. In the podcast, we recap the most common sins committed by sales managers and discuss ways of avoiding them.

Spread goals evenly
Give a huge prize to the top performer
Must be above quota to earn
We’ll figure it out behind the scenes
Under-quota performers can’t be winners
It’s all about the Benjamins

We hope you enjoy the discussion and recommend you download the eBook for reference.

Links

Paul Hebert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulhebert/

7 Deadly Sins Ebook: https://hubs.ly/H0kR8g60

Paul Hebert’s Blog: http://wphebert.com

Fistful of Talent Blog: http://fistfuloftalent.com/author/paulhebert

Elliot Aronson, PhD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Aronson

Zeno of Citium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno_of_Citium

Steenburgh and Ahearne “Motivating Salespeople”: https://hbr.org/2012/07/motivating-salespeople-what-really-works

Ariely and Heyman “A Tale of Two Markets”: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0956-7976.2004.00757.x?journalCode=pssa

Jeffrey and Shaffer “The Effects of Tangible Rewards”: https://theirf.org/research/the-effects-of-tangible-rewards-versus-cash-rewards-in-a-sales-tournament-a-field-experiment/1638/

The guy who traded a paper clip for a house: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip

The Price is Right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Price_Is_Right

Estonia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonia

Musical Links

“Eve of Destruction” by Barry McGuire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZVu0alU0I

“Timothy” by The Bouys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNdvKvbxYQ

“DOA” by Bloodrock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQptxygSM8

First Avenue: https://first-avenue.com/

Trip Shakespeare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PvyrRupOf0

Trip Shakespeare “The Slacks” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkOepnPJS3o

Dan Wilson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Wilson_(musician)

Tragically Hip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN25TcN--I8

Morphine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphine_(band)

Lucius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSF8bgqgC4

Semisonic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGytDsqkQY8

Trampled by Turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcoPedyXJVc

And the Professors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxiVQI3XeA

The Mighty Pines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHrR8LhTKfo

Ewert & the 2 Dragons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddCsOTWz7gI

Wednesday Oct 09, 2019

Grooving: On Goals

Wednesday Oct 09, 2019

Goals are often misunderstood. Goals are much more than just objectives that are handed down to subordinates. Rather, goals are self-determined in the best cases, and at the very least, are set collaboratively to get the most out of them.

We discuss Goal Setting Theory (GST), results from research that Tim conducted, and we address the three key elements that must be included to maximize the effect of the goals: 1. The goals must be perceived as achievable. Without perceived achievability, the goal is not accepted and, therefore, not a goal. 2. There must be some involvement with those who are executing the goals. If the goal is handed down from on high without meaningful participation from the person who’s going to act on it, it’s not a goal. 3. There must be a positive relationship between the goal and the reward (including a perceived assessment of risk). As the risk of achievability increases, so must the perceived value of the reward.

This short grooving session also delves into some myths and how to deal with them. Ultimately, we want listeners to come away with a clear understanding of the powerful results than can be obtained with practical and effective use of self-selected goals.

Links

Zig Ziglar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig_Ziglar

Goal-Setting Theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goal_setting

Edward Locke: https://peakon.com/us/blog/future-work/edwin-locke-goal-setting-theory/

Gary Latham: http://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/FacultyAndResearch/Faculty/FacultyBios/Latham

Howard Klein: https://fisher.osu.edu/people/klein.12

Ran Kivetz: https://www8.gsb.columbia.edu/cbs-directory/detail/rk566

George Loewenstein: https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/sds/people/faculty/george-loewenstein.html

Saurabh Bhargava: https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/sds/people/faculty/saurabh-bhargava.html

Raghuram Bommaraju: https://www.isb.edu/faculty-research/faculty/directory/bommaraju-raghuram

Raghuram Bommaraju & Sebastian Hohenberg on self-selected goals: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1509/jm.17.0002

Kurt Nelson, PhD: kurt@lanterngroup.com

Tim Houlihan: tim@behavioralchemy.com

Sunday Oct 06, 2019

Brad Shuck: Being Ignored is Worse Than Having a Stapler Thrown at You

Sunday Oct 06, 2019

Brad Shuck, PhD is an Associate Professor in the Department of Educational Leadership, Evaluation, and Organizational Development at the University of Louisville. He is also recognized as one of the world’s most knowledgeable experts on employee engagement and is a sought-after speaker from around the world.

Brad’s work is recognized as some of the most influential research in the field of employee engagement and his insights are invaluable. On top of that, Brad is a drummer, a lover of all sorts of music and our discussion traversed topics from the social determinants of health to having parents that were patient enough to allow him to learn drums as a child.

In our grooving session, Kurt and Tim dive deeper into creating a work culture of meaning and we ask the musical question: how does moving from town to town as a child impact your musical tastes?

And don’t forget to join us for our 100^th Episode Celebration on October 17, 2019 in Philadelphia! Eventbrite link: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/behavioral-grooves-100th-episode-event-tickets-73159537145

Links

Brad Shuck email: drbshuck@gmail.com

Brad Shuck web page: www.drbshuck.com

Brad Shuck Google Connection: @drbshuck

Teresa Amabile: https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=6409

Brad’s Research

Shuck, B., Alagaraja, M., Immekus, J., Honeycutt, M., & Cumberland, D. (2019). Does compassion matter for leadership: a two-stage sequential equal status mixed method exploratory study of compassionate leader behavior and connections to performance in human resource development. Human Resource Development Quarterly, X, XX-XX. doi: 10.1002/hrdq.21369
Shuck, B., Peyton-Roberts, T., Zigarmi, D. (2018). Employee perceptions of the work environment, motivational outlooks, and employee work intentions: An HR practitioner’s dream or nightmare? Advances in Developing Human Resources, 20, 197-213. doi: 10.1177/1523422318757209
Shuck, B., #Osam, K., Zigarmi, D., & Nimon, K. (2017). Definitional and conceptual muddling: Identifying the positionality of employee engagement and defining the construct. Human Resource Development Review, 16, 263-293. doi: 0.1177/1534484317720622
Shuck, B., Nimon, K., & Zigarmi, D. (2017). Untangling the predictive nomological validity of employee engagement: Decomposing variance in employee engagement using job attitude measures. Group and Organizational Management. 42, 79-112. doi: 10.1177/1059601116642364
Shuck, B., Alagaraja, M., Rose, K., Owen, J., #Osam, K., & Bergman, M. (2017). The health-related upside of employee engagement: Exploratory evidence and implications for theory and practice. Performance Improvement Quarterly, 30, 165-178. doi: 10.1002/piq.21246
Shuck, B., Adelson, J., & Reio, T. (2017). The employee engagement scale: Initial evidence for construct validity and implications for theory and practice. Human Resource Management, 56, 953-977. doi: 10.1002/hrm.21811
Rose, K., Shuck, B., #Twyford, D., & Bergman, M. (2015). Skunked: An integrative review exploring the consequences of dysfunctional leaders and implications for the employees who work for them. Human Resource Development Review, 14, 64-90. doi: 10.1177/1534484314552437

Musical Links

Folk Music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_music

A Lion Named Roar: http://www.alionnamedroar.com/

Mumford & Sons: https://www.mumfordandsons.com/

For King and Country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_King_%26_Country_(band)

John Coltrane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH3mb3oXCpw

Rodd Stewart: https://www.rodstewart.com/

Kenny G: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_G

Sunday Sep 29, 2019

Jim Guszcza: Data Science AND Behavioral Science, New Wine in a New Bottle

Sunday Sep 29, 2019

Jim Guszcza is the chief data scientist at Deloitte Analytics. His title paints a picture that he’s a total numbers geek. And that would be a fair, but single-dimensional assessment. What it doesn’t speak to is Jim’s passion for behavioral science and, more importantly, the collaboration of data science and behavioral science.

He makes a case for the application of behavioral science simply with this analogy: if we need help to see, we get eyeglasses. In so doing, we are using science and technology to help correct our faulty vision. But when it comes to correcting for our biases, we don’t turn to science and technology and that might improve our decision making. But we could. That’s where the collaboration between data science (or Big Data) and behavioral science come together: applying science and technology to decision making. And THAT was fascinating.

In our discussion about music, we talked about Jim’s equal interest in a Dvorak string quartet as much as he is the in the soundtrack to “Wonder Boys” or a great jazz piano performance. He shared he has a penchant for small venues and small bands.

He then shared some tips about how to apply behavioral science to your job and your life. He focused on reading books and listening to podcasts as ways to become more educated on the topic and to help you apply behavioral science principles.

NOTE: Behavioral Grooves is celebrating our 100^th episode in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on October 17, 2019 with authors Annie Duke and Jeff Kreisler. Our sponsors for the event include PeopleScience and Podbean and we want to thank them for helping us make this possible. If you’re unable to join us in person, we’ll be live streaming the event and we hope you’ll log in there!