
Stories, science and secrets from the world’s brightest thought-leaders. Behavioral Grooves is the podcast that satisfies your curiosity of why we do what we do. Explanations of human behavior that will improve your relationships, your wellbeing, and your organization by helping you find your groove.
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Monday Nov 10, 2025
Is the American Dream Dead? | Mark Matson
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Financial advisor and author Mark Matson joins Behavioral Grooves to explore what the American Dream means today—and whether it’s truly attainable for everyone. We dig into his view that fulfillment comes from mindset, not money, and examine how behavioral biases can sabotage our financial decisions. But as we discuss the tension between personal responsibility and systemic headwinds, we also ask: can discipline and optimism alone really guarantee success?
Topics
[0:00] A quick word with Kurt and Tim - Struggling with the American Dream
[5:08] Speed Round with Mark Matson
[9:20] Cognitive Biases in Investing
[16:00] Victimhood vs Agency
[23:58] Why Investors Are Their Own Worst Enemy
[27:12] Behavioral Economics and Bad Decisions
[38:45] The Three Rules for Smarter Investing
[44:58] Defining “Enough”
[51:13] How to Find Purpose and Find Your Groove
[58:50] Desert Island Music Picks
[1:01:12] Grooving Session: Nuance, Privilege, and Perspective
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Monday Nov 03, 2025
The Trick That Shapes Every Choice You Make | Mikael Klintman
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
How does framing influence the way we think, feel, and act? Sociologist and author Mikael Klintman joins us to explore how framing shapes nearly every part of life — from art and politics to health and everyday conversations. We discuss how subtle shifts in language and context can change our perceptions, why framing itself is neutral but powerful, and how expanding or contracting our frames can unite or divide us. Tune in for practical insights on recognizing framing in action and using it to see the world differently.
Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Mikael Klintman
[6:29] Framing: A Double-Edged Sword?
[13:02] The Art of Social Influence
[17:07] Rough and Smooth Framing
[22:54] Frame Expansion and Contraction
[30:12] Behavioral Economics and Framing
[36:25] Framing in Everyday Life
[41:23] Music and Framing
[48:04] Grooving Session: Using Framing to Reframe Your Own Mindset
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Framing: The Social Art of Influence by Mikael Klintman
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Friday Oct 31, 2025
Freaky Friday: Grooving on Scary Biases
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Happy Halloween from Behavioral Grooves! In the spirit (OoooOoo) of the holiday, we're resharing one of our old episodes exploring the spooky side of biases - why we have them, and how we can overcome them. Tune in while you're painting your face for that halloween party, or maybe play it on the speakers outside to really scare the kids with some cold hard science.
No tricks, just treats — and by treats, we mean thoughtful behavioral science stories told without ads or sponsors.
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Monday Oct 27, 2025
The Science of Superstition: Why Our Brains Believe in Magic
Monday Oct 27, 2025
Monday Oct 27, 2025
This Halloween, we dive into the spooky science of superstition—why we knock on wood, wear lucky socks, and believe in things that defy logic. From the psychology of control and uncertainty to research on how superstition both stresses and strengthens us, we mix science, humor, and a dash of Stevie Wonder to show why “superstition ain’t the way.”
Topics
[0:00] Happy Halloween from Behavioral Grooves!
[2:08] Common superstitions and their rationality
[6:40] Psychological and cultural aspects of superstitions
[9:13] Superstitions: The positives and negatives
[14:36] The hidden wisdom of Stevie Wonder
[16:14] Why we should be curious about our rituals
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Monday Oct 20, 2025
The Lies We Believe About Control | Dr. Wolfgang Linden
Monday Oct 20, 2025
Monday Oct 20, 2025
Psychologist and author Dr. Wolfgang Linden joins us to explore why so much of our stress comes not from events themselves, but from our attempts to control them. Drawing on 40+ years of research and clinical experience, he breaks down the “illusion of control” and argues that we only truly have power over two things: how we respond and where we direct our energy. We dive into his emotion–thought–behavior framework, the dangers of suppressing emotions, and how small shifts in attention and behavior can interrupt toxic cycles. From relationships to health to life goals, Wolfgang shows how letting go can actually give us more peace, more agency, and a clearer path forward—sometimes even by knowing when to quit.
Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Dr. Wolfgang Linden
[6:08] Emotions: friend or foe?
[13:38] Behavior change and depression
[17:51] When to persist vs. when to quit
[26:23] Stress, values, and life priorities
[31:39] Saying yes to opportunities
[36:05] What to do when stuck in a rut
[43:37] Desert Island music
[48:36] Grooving session: attention, focus, and letting go
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The Illusion of Control: A Practical Guide to Avoid Futile Struggles by Wolfgang Linden
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Thursday Oct 16, 2025
Eight Years Grooving: How to Decide | Annie Duke (Republish)
Thursday Oct 16, 2025
Thursday Oct 16, 2025
This October, we’re celebrating 8 years of Behavioral Grooves! To mark the occasion, we’re digging into our archives and re-sharing some of our most popular and thought-provoking conversations every Thursday for the next two months.
The celebration builds to our Anniversary Event on October 16th in Minneapolis, where fan favorite Nick Epley will lead the audience in a live social experiment and conversation about the science we all love.
🎉 Space is limited—grab your tickets now through the link in the show notes and join us for an unforgettable night of behavioral science, connection, and fun!
And for our final throwback...
Annie Duke returns to discuss her book How to Decide: Simple Tools for Making Better Choices, a practical guide that helps readers apply decision-making strategies in everyday life. Annie walks us through concepts like the Archer’s Mindset, Free Rolls, and the surprising benefits of negative thinking, all designed to improve goal-setting and outcomes. Blending behavioral science with her signature clarity—and even a few musical shoutouts to Jack White—Annie offers listeners concrete tools to make smarter decisions and, ultimately, happier lives.
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Monday Oct 13, 2025
Why Who You Know Still Matters | Toby Stuart
Monday Oct 13, 2025
Monday Oct 13, 2025
We explore the hidden forces of status and anointment with Professor Toby Stuart, author of Anointed: How Status Shapes Our Lives. Status influences careers, relationships, and how we perceive art, yet as AI blurs traditional markers of merit, society is increasingly relying on shortcuts like pedigree and recognition. We examine the risks, opportunities, and compounding effects of status, revealing how small advantages snowball into lifelong impacts and challenging listeners to rethink how status shapes their world.
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Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Toby Stuart
[8:43] Status-based Bias
[13:49] Status in Art, Music, and Science
[26:34] The Power of Anointment and Status Transfer
[39:39] Status Hierarchies, Networks, and Social Groups
[43:23] The Cosmic Lottery
[48:06] The Future of Status in an AI World
[58:47] What is the Matthew Effect?
[1:01:50] Grooving Session - What Does Status Really Mean?
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Thursday Oct 09, 2025
Eight Years Grooving: Why People Succeed | Bob McKinnon (Republish)
Thursday Oct 09, 2025
Thursday Oct 09, 2025
This October, we’re celebrating 8 years of Behavioral Grooves! To mark the occasion, we’re digging into our archives and re-sharing some of our most popular and thought-provoking conversations every Thursday for the next two months.
The celebration builds to our Anniversary Event on October 16th in Minneapolis, where fan favorite Nick Epley will lead the audience in a live social experiment and conversation about the science we all love.
Space is limited—grab your tickets now through the link in the show notes and join us for an unforgettable night of behavioral science, connection, and fun!
And now - our throwback of the week!
Bob McKinnon—host of the Attribution podcast and author of America’s Dreaming—joins us to unpack the stories we tell about success and failure. Bob challenges the “fundamental attribution error,” showing how luck, privilege, and social connections shape life outcomes far more than we often admit. Together, we explore the ethics of marketing, the hidden role of systemic barriers, and how reframing our narratives can foster empathy and bridge divides. With storytelling, history, and even music woven in, this conversation reveals how compassionate curiosity can help us see both ourselves and others more clearly.
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Monday Oct 06, 2025
You’re Right - Meetings Are the Worst | Don Kieffer
Monday Oct 06, 2025
Monday Oct 06, 2025
Don Kieffer, co-author of There’s Got to Be a Better Way, shares why “common sense” often misguides leaders and how dynamic work design helps organizations thrive. From calling meetings the worst form of organizational abuse to showing why managers can become their own obstacles, Don explains how making work visible and partnering with people closest to the work can unlock both adaptability and efficiency.
Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Don Kieffer
[7:14] What Leaders Consistently Get Wrong
[10:29] Dynamic Work - What Is It?
[18:42] The Hot Stove Problem
[22:56] When the Boss Becomes the Problem
[28:18] The Power of Whiteboards
[36:01] Meetings: The Worst Form of Organizational Abuse
[42:46] Jazz, Improv, and Better Work Design
[45:44] Grooving Session - Handoffs, Huddles, and Making Work Work
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There’s Got to Be a Better Way by Nelson Repenning and Donald Kieffer
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Thursday Oct 02, 2025
Eight Years Grooving: Delighting in Death | Jodi Wellman (Republish)
Thursday Oct 02, 2025
Thursday Oct 02, 2025
This October, we’re celebrating 8 years of Behavioral Grooves! To mark the occasion, we’re digging into our archives and re-sharing some of our most popular and thought-provoking conversations every Thursday for the next two months.
The celebration builds to our Anniversary Event on October 16th in Minneapolis, where fan favorite Nick Epley will lead the audience in a live social experiment and conversation about the science we all love.
Space is limited—grab your tickets now through the link in the show notes and join us for an unforgettable night of behavioral science, connection, and fun!
And now - this week's episode!
Jodi Wellman, author of You Only Die Once, joins us for a lively and irreverent conversation on how facing our mortality can motivate us to live more fully. Together, we explore why life should be about more than routines and to-do lists, and how prioritizing joy, gratitude, and connection can help us make the most of the limited Mondays we have left. Blending humor with inspiration, Jodi challenges us to be more intentional with our time and to embrace the art of truly living.
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You Only Die Once by Jodi Wellman
