Stories, science and secrets from the world’s brightest thought-leaders. Behavioral Grooves is the podcast that satisfies your curiosity of why we do what we do. Explanations of human behavior that will improve your relationships, your wellbeing, and your organization by helping you find your groove.
Episodes
Sunday Mar 27, 2022
Sunday Mar 27, 2022
We are always learning, whether it’s changing careers or learning a new instrument. But how do we transition from the curiosity stage, to completely mastering the skill? It turns out it’s a rather predictable process. The growth and learning journey we all embark on, many times in our life, can, according to Whitney Johnson, be visualized on the S Curve of Learning. The growth and learning journey comes in three phases: the Launch Point, the Sweet Spot, and Mastery.
In this episode with Whitney and in her new book “Smart Growth: How to Grow Your People to Grow Your Company”, we can learn how to keep going when growth is slow and why we sometimes leap from one journey to another. By familiarizing ourselves with the growth journey, we can better ourselves, our workplaces and our societies.
Not only has Whitney been a fascinating guest on our podcast, she has also generously given us some signed copies of her book for our listeners! All you have to do is write a Twitter post about why you would like to read Whitney’s book Smart Growth on social media and tag us in the post: @behavioralgroov. We will choose the lucky winners and send you a FREE SIGNED COPY!
Topics
(1:18) Find out how to WIN Whitney’s new book, “Smart Growth: How to Grow Your People to Grow Your Company”.
(4:11) What is the S Curve of Learning?
(11:33) How we have learnt to integrate our work life and home life during the pandemic.
(15:44) Nobody climbs their S Curve alone; how important is context?
(18:49) The 6 phases of the S Curve.
(26:28) How Shellye Archambeau jumped onto new S Curves in order to reach the summit.
(34:51) What is Whitney’s next challenge?
(40:58) Whitney’s S Curve with music.
(47:00) Grooving Session with Kurt and Tim recapping what we learnt from Whitney.
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Links
Win a signed copy of Whitney’s new book at @behavioralgroov
“Smart Growth: How to Grow Your People to Grow Your Company” by Whitney Johnson: https://amzn.to/3NpapCq
“The Innovator's Dilemma: When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail (Management of Innovation and Change)” by Clayton Christensen: https://amzn.to/3JE3mDu
Thich Nhat Hanh quote: “You have to do it by yourself. You can not do it alone.”
Episode 204, How Shellye Archambeau Flies Like an Eagle: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/shellye-archambeau-like-an-eagle/
Disrupt Yourself Podcast: https://whitneyjohnson.com/disrupt-yourself-podcast/
Jacqueline Novogratz on Disrupt Yourself Podcast: https://whitneyjohnson.com/233-jacqueline-novogratz-when-the-work-gets-hard-look-for-beauty/
Simon Sinek on Disrupt Yourself Podcast: https://whitneyjohnson.com/simon-sinek/
Livingston Taylor On Disrupt Yourself Podcast: https://whitneyjohnson.com/livingston-taylor/
Sunil Gupta on Disrupt Yourself Podcast: https://whitneyjohnson.com/222-suneel-gupta/
Behavioral Grooves Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves.
Musical Links
Diana Krall “Just The Way You Are”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RYUZT57XA
Stevie Wonder “As”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYQfWJNWe3I
Rodgers & Hammerstein“Getting To Know You” from The King and I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlx6gQWfjp0
Aimee Nolte piano jazz tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJCj7J69vsQ
Tori Kelly “Don’t You Worry About A Thing”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skq4IQmt58o
Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
Creating a motivating mindset is the most important component of any sales role. In fact, it’s a critical component of everything we do, but Donald C. Kelly enthusiastically reminds us in this episode that it’s a vital step in the sales process. Adopting a sales mindset can elevate you from a good sales person to a great sales person. Learn from Donald about how to get into the zone of a sales mindset.
Donald has an extremely passionate, dedicated, and infectious personality. As producer and host of the extremely popular podcast, The Sales Evangelist, Donald lives, eats and breathes sales. He believes that anyone can become a sales person if they believe in themselves. Something that he started to discover for himself at the age of 7, when he started to sell mangoes in his hometown in Jamaica in order to help get him the cool Ninja bike that he wanted so badly.
We dedicate part of our interview with Donald to discuss the blend of behavioral science in sales. If you’re interested in finding out even more about how behavioral science can be used in your workplace, the team at Behavioral Grooves have designed a new handbook on leadership called Leading Human. It is cater-made for leaders in sales or any management role to help explore the human challenges and overcome the stresses of working in a hyper-dynamic world. The handbook walks you through exercises that you can do with your team - to make sure that you are being the most effective manager possible. In this ever changing world, having a deep understanding of how to apply behavioral science insights to better lead your team is vitally important.
Topics
(3:04) Welcome and speed round questions.
(8:40) Are people born with a natural sales ability?
(13:30) Why does our impression of sales come from car salesmen?
(18:12) Donald’s sales journey started by selling mangoes.
(22:38) How important is your mindset in sales?
(24:37) How your environment activates your reticular activating system.
(36:03) Why is behavioral science not integrated more in sales?
(41:10) How Donald uses music to get in the zone.
(45:27) Grooving Session with Kurt and Tim sharing what we learnt from Donald.
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Links
Kurt and Tim on The Sales Evangelist Podcast, “Why Your Brain Lies To You: Cash Is NOT The Best Motivator”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tim-houlihan-and-kurt-nelson-phd-why-your-brain-lies/id788738885?i=1000473224218
“Sell It Like a Mango: A New Seller's Guide to Closing More Deals” by Donald C. Kelly: https://amzn.to/36cH8Kt
“The Sales Evangelist Sales Planner” by Donald C. Kelly: https://amzn.to/3ipIdAW
Michael Jordan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan
Seth Godin: https://seths.blog/
Leading Human Handbook designed for leaders: https://www.behavioralgrooves-store.com/products/copy-of-the-leading-human-playbook-workbook-package
Musical Links
Chronixx “Here Comes Trouble”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeIfiiBTfY
Koffee “Lockdown”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzv3K3Keyg
Drake “Money In The Grave”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3lH6CULHD0
Damian Marley “Living It Up”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XN8h3JHmHw
Sunday Mar 20, 2022
Sunday Mar 20, 2022
Paleontologist Henry Gee humorously explains to us why the anus was the key to large animals evolving, how the large size of our “dangly bits” is unique to our species, and what exactly has been the significance to humans about bipedalism. Our colorful discussion with Henry hilariously highlights many of the mysteries surrounding our life on earth.
"The anus was the key to all intelligent life, which is why one tends to have one's best ideas while sitting on the loo." ~ Henry Gee
Henry describes himself as a “recovering paleontologist”, but he is also an author, and a musician. His day job is the senior editor of the scientific journal Nature.
Having written numerous books, including The Accidental Species, The Science of Middle-Earth, Jacob's Ladder and In Search of Deep Time, Henry protested to his publisher that he wouldn’t write another [expletive] book. But Henry wrote another [expletive] book and we’re so glad he did! A (Very) Short History of Life On Earth is a fun and informative review of the delicate balance that has allowed life to survive and flourish on the planet.
Topics
(5:49) Welcome and speed round questions.
(10:21) Why was the development of the anus the key to all intelligent life?
(13:01) Why are there no dinosaur sized animals anymore?
(18:32) The story of why Henry wrote A (Very) Short History of Life on Earth.
(23:55) Why bipedalism is such a mystery and a marvel.
(31:57) Humans are uniquely good at endurance running.
(35:07) Why do men have large penises and women have large breasts?
(39:10) The musical significance of cave painting locations.
(42:03) Bach was a rule breaker!
(47:05) What work and music Henry is working on next.
(51:24) Grooving session with Kurt and Tim reviewing what we learnt from Henry.
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Links
Henry’s book, “A (Very) Short History of Life on Earth: 4.6 Billion Years in 12 Pithy Chapters”: https://amzn.to/3I8HH4W
Henry Gee on Twitter: @EndOfThePier
Neil Gaiman: https://www.neilgaiman.com/
Dan Lieberman: https://scholar.harvard.edu/dlieberman/home
Musical Links
Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRg0K5rgXog&ab_channel=CollinsClassics
Juilliard String Quartet performs Bach, Art of Fugue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ILd81jY1v4
BB King “Beautician Blues”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFA4UHl4upE
Robert Johnson “Crossroads”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd60nI4sa9A
G & T “Ice and a Slice”: https://open.spotify.com/album/5o4CQ6SJJ2hnGFvoCSMrsm
Sunday Mar 13, 2022
Sunday Mar 13, 2022
Connecting evidence-based behavioral science with public policy has been shown to deliver more effective government policies that strengthen communities. And there’s no-one better to explain this rigorous process than David Yokum PhD, who cut his teeth in behavioral science in the first White House Social & Behavioral Science team. David then went on to work as the Director of The Lab @ DC where he applied behavioral science to city issues. He now works as the Director and founder of The Policy Lab at Brown University, as well as hosting his own podcast, 30,000 Leagues.
We were lucky enough to talk to David about the changing role of behavioral science inside government, some of the experiments that he has run, and how working proactively in gaining agreement upfront on an experiment's design with the community and policy makers can help cross political divides and actually change mindsets.
The mission of The Policy Lab at Brown University where David now works is “to work in concert with government leaders and experts to develop evidence-based policy programs that improve lives and strengthen communities”, which, I think you’ll agree is one of the coolest missions anywhere.
Topics
(2:31) Welcome and speed round questions.
(4:18) The benefits of disconnecting from screens for a short time.
(12:16) How applying behavioral science to public policy delivers better policy.
(15:07) How has behavioral science application in public policy changed?
(19:27) Behavioral science experiments can be run on hot button issues, like police body cams.
(26:51) The political advantages of using randomized control trials.
(31:39) Will experiment results be accepted across the political divide?
(38:18) The barriers faced when turning experiment results into policy change.
(42:56) Examples of successful partnerships between the civil service and the research communities.
(49:14) About David’s podcast; 30,000 Leagues.
(51:58) How David’s playlists are curated.
(56:32) Grooving Session with Tim and Kurt discussing what we’ve learnt from David.
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Links
David Yokum on Twitter: @david_yokum
30,000 Leagues Podcast: https://thirtythousandleagues.com/
Office of Evaluation Sciences: https://oes.gsa.gov/
Randomized Control Trial of the Metropolitan Police Department Body-Worn Camera Program: https://bwc.thelab.dc.gov/#approach/2
North Carolina Office of Strategic Partnerships: https://www.osbm.nc.gov/operational-excellence/nc-office-strategic-partnerships
R&D League - City of San Antonio: https://www.sanantonio.gov/Innovation/R-D-League
Southwest Research Institute: https://www.swri.org/
Jules Verne: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne
Musical Links
Hank Williams “You Win Again”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYDQBIokz0
Sunday Mar 06, 2022
Sunday Mar 06, 2022
Control is the opposite of caring. And a caring mindset is one of the most important things a leader can possess. In a caring workplace, workers experience lower absenteeism, less burnout and more productive teamwork.
“When we carry a mindset of control, we tend to shrink in our capacity, because we are likely to disconnect from our emotions, so we avoid what's happening with us and what may be happening with other people. There's really not a lot of room for us to express something beyond the cognitive.” ~ Sesil Pir.
Sesil Pir may not be a household name, we are delighted to bring you our rich conversation with her, which is sprinkled with gems from her 20+ years of championing humanity in the workplace. More recently, Sesil has authored the book “Human-Centered Leadership: Awakening The Choice Within” after years of longitudinal research with Stanford University to pull the data, analyze it, and package it so nicely for us to read.
“You can manage a task, you can divide it into pieces, you can time control yourself, or resource control yourself, but you cannot manage a human being…what we can do is lead one another.” ~ Sesil Pir
Not only is Sesil’s book packed full of incredible leadership insights, 100% of the profits from the book are going to non-profit organizations to benefit the education of young girls in emerging markets. So, we strongly encourage you to buy the book, read it, and share her work with others you know.
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Topics
(5:46) Being successful vs being kind.
(8:41) We always have a choice in how we show up.
(12:57) The importance of going back to our purpose and being authentic.
(16:13) Control is the opposite of caring. Why a caring mindset is important.
(22:26) Leaders who are pessimistic about a caring mindset.
(26:59) The difference between sympathy, empathy and compassion.
(29:59) Why adaptability and resilience are vital in organizations.
(36:46) What part do self esteem and trust play in leadership?
(40:30) How to choose junior leaders in an organization?
(48:35) Grooving session with Kurt and Tim discussing the human part of leadership.
Links
“Human-Centered Leadership” by Sesil Pir: https://amzn.to/3CzwB6f
Kwame Christina, Episode 178: On Compassionate Curiosity, Social Justice Conversations, and Cinnamon Toast Crunch: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/kwame-christian-on-compassionate-curiosity-social-justice-conversations-and-cinnamon-toast-crunch/
Behavioral Grooves Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
Musical Links
Eminem “Without Me”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY
Diana Krall “Just The Way You Are”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RYUZT57XA
Bebe “Siempre Me Quedara”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-HKvYDTpoc&ab_channel=AirinR
Mercan Dede “Alef”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhmX8D9UQBw&ab_channel=netdm%C3%BCzik
Sunday Feb 27, 2022
Sunday Feb 27, 2022
We gravitate to people who are like us; our “tribe”. One factor that we use to assume that others are like us, is by the way they talk. Not just the words they speak, but the accent that they use to communicate. And yes, we all have an accent!
Since the way we speak is central to our identity, do we have control over it by altering our accent or by learning a new language? And what implications does our hidden linguistic bias have in the workplace and for discrimination laws?
Pioneering psychologist Katherine Kinzler PhD has spent years researching the way we talk and listen to voices. Katherine is a Professor of Psychology at the University of Chicago and author of the recent book “How You Say It: Why You Talk the Way You Do―And What It Says About You”. We talk with her about linguistic prejudices, and how she advocates for bilingualism, multilingual education and linguistic diversity.
If you enjoy this episode, please leave us a quick review on your podcast platform. It really helps other listeners to find our content. You can also help fund our work by contributing to Behavioral Grooves through Patreon. Thank you!
Topics
(4:16) Welcome to Katherine and speed round questions.
(6:00) Can language be both fixed and malleable at the same time?
(10:57) Why Katherine wrote a book about linguistic prejudice and valuing bilingualism.
(13:40) How do you define good communication?
(17:52) The implications of speech discrimination in the work place.
(20:40) Do we gravitate to people who share a similar linguistic pattern to ours?
(24:26) The value of multilingual education.
(26:11) How young children learn about language having social relevance.
(34:26) Our society teaches us to embed our kids with social norms.
(39:03) How music from different cultures influences young children.
(42:43) Grooving Session - linguistic prejudices and how we can overcome them.
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Links
Dr. Katherine Kinzler PhD: https://psychology.uchicago.edu/directory/katherine-d-kinzler
“How You Say It: Why You Talk the Way You Do―And What It Says About You” by Katherine Kinzler: https://amzn.to/3BNn6BE
Episode 274, Paul Bloom: Why Finding Pleasure in Life is a Painful Journey: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/pleasure-is-a-painful-journey/
Spelke ES, Kinzler KD. “Core knowledge” Developmental Science. 2007 Jan;10(1):89-96: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17181705/
Episode 102: Cristina Bicchieri: Social Norms are Bundles of Expectations https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/cristina-bicchieri-social-norms-are-bundles-of-expectations/
Samuel A. Mehr, Lee Ann Song, Elizabeth S. Spelke, “For 5-Month-Old Infants, Melodies Are Social”: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797615626691
Behavioral Grooves Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
Musical Links
Music with Mr. Dave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1PsQ3ngWo&ab_channel=MrDaveMusic
Sunday Feb 20, 2022
Sunday Feb 20, 2022
We all have an inherent need to belong. And the groups we feel part of actually shape our behavior, more than we realize. They influence how we navigate the world and the way we relate to each other. In an increasingly polarized landscape, our social identities are often collapsed into a single dimension; Republican or Democrat, Brexit Leaver or Brexit Remainer. But our identities are multifaceted. And if we unpeel the complex layers of our identities, we reveal more commonalities than differences. Exposing that can be a powerful and unifying force.
The Power of Us is an incredible new book, showcasing the potential we have when we harness our shared identities. In this episode, Dominic Packer, who co-authored the book alongside fellow researcher Jay Van Bavel, gives us a glimpse into their revolutionary new understanding of identity, and how our groups have a powerful influence on our feelings, beliefs, and behaviors. We also learn how these shared identities can inspire personal change and social movements.
“Our social identities end up shaping a lot of how we navigate the world, a lot of our feelings about the world and how we relate to each other.” ~ Dominic Packer
If you enjoy Behavioral Grooves podcast, please leave us a quick review on your podcast platform. It really helps other listeners to find our content. You can also become a mega-fan by contributing to Behavioral Grooves through Patreon. Thank you!
Topics
(3:28) Welcome and speed round questions.
(9:16) How polarization is collapsing our identities into a single dimension.
(11:36) How priming a particular part of your identity can change how you think.
(14:59) Does the 24 hour news cycle constantly remind us of our political identity?
(17:26) Who is The Power Of Us written for?
(18:55) Why were the Minimal Group Studies so important to understanding group identities?
(24:59) Who is most likely to dissent from a group?
(28:22) In-group love is not inherently the same as out-group hate.
(31:39) What factors lead to out-group hate?
(33:41) What steps can create more cohesion between groups?
(36:07) Why did the COVID-19 pandemic cause division and not unity?
(44:55) How music can make you feel part of a group and reinforce your identity.
(54:54) Grooving Session discussing what we have learnt about our own social identities.
Links
“The Power of Us: Harnessing Our Shared Identities to Improve Performance, Increase Cooperation, and Promote Social Harmony” by Jay J. Van Bavel PhD, Dominic J. Packer PhD: https://amzn.to/3BsmzF6
Henri Tajfel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Tajfel
Oprah Winfrey “Discrimination Exercise” show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ1PGDEKaqs
Jane Elliott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott
Musical Links
Treble Charger “American Psycho”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZqCwEgOv1k
Green Day “Time of Your Life”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnQ8N1KacJc
Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg
Dave Grohl, drumming solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utYq-AIJSbg&ab_channel=painmanist
Sunday Feb 13, 2022
Sunday Feb 13, 2022
Influential is probably not a word you use to describe yourself if you are the quiet/smart/kind type of person. Furthermore, you probably have misconceptions about what it even means to have influence. Zoe Chance believes intelligent and caring people are precisely those who should learn how to harness their influence and then use it for bigger, more socially important issues. And she practices what she preaches! Zoe is donating half of the profits from her new book to fight the climate crisis.
“Influence Is Your Superpower: The Science of Winning Hearts, Sparking Change, and Making Good Things Happen” is the fantastic new book that Zoe has written. On this episode of Behavioral Grooves, we delve into Zoe’s clever way of framing system 1 and system 2 thinking, how being influential isn’t as hard as it appears, and about what she likes to call The Magic Question!
As a professor at the Yale School of Management, Zoe studies and teaches influence, focusing on research-based strategies to create positive impact in people’s lives. She teaches the most popular course at the Business School, called “Mastering Influence and Persuasion” which is affectionately known on campus as the "Doing Uncomfortable Things That Make You a Better Person” course!
Topics
(3:04) Welcome and speed round.
(7:20) The Gator Brain vs The Judge Brain.
(13:10) Charisma isn’t something you are, it’s something you do.
(17:57) When are people open to being influenced by us?
(21:00) What is The Magic Question?
(26:04) How Zoe is using her influence.
(28:57) How does Zoe teach her students about their influence?
(36:04) How global warming got reframed into the climate crisis.
(40:05) Reframing the replication crisis.
(44:07) How Zoe uses music to create an inclusive, influential atmosphere.
(49:37) Grooving session recapping how we can use Zoe’s insights to wield our superpower of influence!
Do you know you have the power to influence other podcast listeners! If you enjoy Behavioral Grooves podcast, please leave us a quick review on your podcast platform. It really helps other listeners to find our content. You can also become a mega-fan by contributing to Behavioral Grooves through Patreon. Thanks!
© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Links
“Influence Is Your Superpower: The Science of Winning Hearts, Sparking Change, and Making Good Things Happen” by Zoe Chance: https://amzn.to/3EYKXOz
Zoe Chance: zoechance.com
Kopi Luwak coffee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak
Black Ivory coffee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Ivory_Coffee
Brit Marling (The OA): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_Marling
Eldar Shafir: https://psych.princeton.edu/person/eldar-shafir
“The Charisma Myth: How Anyone Can Master the Art and Science of Personal Magnetism” by Olivia Fox Chance: https://amzn.to/3HE93jp
Paisley Park: https://www.paisleypark.com/
350.org: https://350.org/
Jia Jong 100 Days of Rejection Challenge: https://www.rejectiontherapy.com/100-days-of-rejection-therapy
Frank Luntz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz
Brazilian billionaire Chiquinho Scarpa burying his Bentley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8GvaEPyX9Y&ab_channel=LeoBurnettTailorMadeBrazil
Musical Links
Prince “I Wanna Be Your Lover”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp8WL621uGM
Rasputin by Boney M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16y1AkoZkmQ&ab_channel=BoneyMVEVO
Bella Ciao from Money Heist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46cXFUzR9XM&ab_channel=NetflixIndia
Sunday Feb 06, 2022
Sunday Feb 06, 2022
No regrets is a phrase thrown around like a badge of honor. Tattoos, songs and marketing taglines all boast this notion of curating a liberated life that you wouldn’t alter, change or modify in any way. But are we missing something? Best-selling author, Daniel H. Pink has done extensive research for his new book, The Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward, and believes that the feeling of regret isn't just something that makes us human, it actually gives us hope.
Daniel Pink is the author of seven books, including the New York Times bestsellers When and A Whole New Mind — as well as the #1 New York Times bestsellers Drive and To Sell is Human. Dan’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 42 languages, and have sold millions of copies around the world.
Dan was also the host and co-executive producer of “Crowd Control,” a television series about human behavior on the National Geographic Channel that aired in more than 100 countries. Before venturing out on his own 20 years ago, Dan worked in politics and in government, including serving as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore.
Topics
(3:56) Speed round questions
(7:48) How Dan started to lean into his own regrets.
(10:49) The complex emotion of regret.
(12:16) Will we regret switching our answers on a test?
(16:33) How Dan has compiled data on regret.
(18:55) How our regrets change as we age.
(22:11) Can we anticipate our regrets?
(26:29) How our unique moral code affects our regrets.
(29:40) The Four Core Regrets.
(33:47) What didn’t go in Dan's book.
(39:45) The power of self compassion.
(41:35) Why regret gives us hope.
(46:40) What music would Dan never regret listening to?
(50:40) Grooving Session with Kurt and Tim recapping the Four Core Regrets and what we can learn from them.
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© 2022 Behavioral Grooves
Daniel H. Pink Books
The Power Of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward: https://amzn.to/3gpU1C9
Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us: https://amzn.to/3gpUcgN
To Sell is Human: The Surprising Truth About Moving Others: https://amzn.to/3Laj0aU
When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing: https://amzn.to/3rtspCM
Links
Episode 171: Self Control, Belonging, and Why Your Most Dedicated Employees Are the Ones To Watch Out For with Roy Baumeister: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/self-control-belonging-and-why-your-most-dedicated-employees-are-the-ones-to-watch-out-for-with-roy-baumeister/
“Commission, Omission, and Dissonance Reduction: Coping with Regret in the "Monty Hall" Problem”: shorturl.at/wEU58
Jonathan Haidt, “The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion: https://amzn.to/3Glfdnq
Musical Links
Simon & Garfunkel “The Sound of Silence”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAEppFUWLfc&ab_channel=SimonGarfunkelVEVO
Ella Fitzgerald Live in Berlin “Mack The Knife”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVxtdQgLjuQ
J.S. Bach “Adagio”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ywL_zokELE
Three Dog Night “Mama Told Me Not To Come”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCyjYjsVc8&ab_channel=Moondoggy
Men Without Hats “Pop Goes The Word”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUUtf7gOe8&ab_channel=MenWithoutHatsVEVO
Bob Seger “Turn The Page”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khH9ih2XJg&ab_channel=jimmej955
Sunday Jan 30, 2022
Sunday Jan 30, 2022
When we set goals, we’re excited, engaged and motivated to complete them. But after a while, the momentum can slow, we lose enthusiasm and we start cutting corners. The “middle problem” is something we can all relate to. And it's one of the topics we discuss on this episode with Dr Ayelet Fisbach PhD.
Ayelet teaches us about staying motivated, without cutting corners. How our identity, flexibility and patience actually affect our goals. And perhaps, most importantly, why we should set ourselves uncomfortable goals and learn from our failures.
Talking with Ayelet on Behavioral Grooves was a true privilege for us. She is one of the few researchers on the planet who blend motivation and goal setting into their work, and her groundbreaking research has won her a bunch of international awards. She is the Jeffrey Breckenridge Keller Professor of Behavioral Science and Marketing at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and also the recent author of Get it Done: Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation (https://amzn.to/3f3ooh4).
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Topics
(6:18) Welcome and speed round.
(9:19) What tools do we have to motivate ourselves?
(10:18) Why flexible goals are vital.
(14:11) Exceeding your own expectations is when you feel good about your goals.
(16:45) The problem with the middle.
(18:47) We can all get tripped up by the planning fallacy.
(21:28) Set goals, not means (goals aren’t chores).
(24:57) How does our identity affect our goals?
(28:29) The different ways patience plays a part in goals.
(30:59) Why identifying temptations can help you avoid them.
(34:04) How food labels could improve our eating habits.
(38:28) Setting an uncomfortable goal can actually be rewarding.
(44:12) Learning from failure.
(49:35) How Ayelet engages with music.
(52:05) Grooving Session discussing Ayelet’s research.
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Ayelet Fishbach, “Get It Done: Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation”: https://amzn.to/3f3ooh4
Ayelet Fishbach: https://www.ayeletfishbach.com/
The Marshmallow Test: Why Self-Control Is the Engine of Success: https://amzn.to/34de2sS
Abigail Sussman: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/faculty/directory/s/abigail-sussman
Second city: https://www.secondcity.com/
Episode 228. Kelly Leonard, Getting to Yes, And…Behavioral Grooves: Two Podcasts in One: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/getting-to-yes-and/
Paul Bloom, “The Sweet Spot: Suffering, Pleasure and the Key to a Good Life”: https://amzn.to/32QfmBS
Episode 274, Paul Bloom: Why Finding Pleasure in Life is a Painful Journey: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/pleasure-is-a-painful-journey/
Ethan Kross, “Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It”: https://amzn.to/32Vj0Ks
Carol Dweck, “Mindset: Changing The Way You think To Fulfill Your Potential”: https://amzn.to/3GjBvGp