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Sunday Jul 18, 2021
Sunday Jul 18, 2021
Do honest people steal? Our guest, Kelly Paxton investigates and researches low level crimes such as book-keeping fraud; also known as Pink Collar Crime. She discusses how a hostile work environment and the prospect of financial difficulties at home can lead “good” people to rationalize dishonest behavior.
Kelly Paxton is a former federal agent who was used to dealing with “bad guys.” Once she started working embezzlement cases, she quickly realized that honest people steal.
The term pink-collar crime describes embezzlement type crimes that are typically committed by females. Can a man be a pink collar criminal? The simple answer is yes. It's the position not the gender but in these "pink" positions there are just more women than men.
Topics we Discuss With Kelly Paxton
(4:25) Welcome and speed round questions.
(6:39) Why you should be concerned if your bookkeeper never takes a vacation.
(7:15) What is Pink Collar Crime?
(10:20) How Kelly’s career and curiosity lead her into investigating Pink Collar Crime.
(14:48) What is The Fraud Triangle?
(19:14) Do women steal differently than men?
(28:35) What are the common behaviors of people who embezzle?
(31:17) Who benefits and who takes the blame for embezzlement?
(37:53) Who should you trust?
(42:39) How people rationalize their dishonesty.
(45:49) What should companies do to prevent pink collar crime?
(49:49) Kelly's favorite music and playlists.
Join us on our follow-on discussion in Episode 239 where Kurt and Tim have a Grooving Session on what Kelly has brought up in her interview and how we can apply insight from her interview into our own businesses.
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Links
Kelly Paxton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellypaxton/
Kelly Paxton, Embezzlement: How to Detect, Prevent, and Investigate Pink-Collar Crime: https://amzn.to/3i57hN1
Great Women in Fraud: https://greatwomeninfraud.com/
Great Women in Fraud Podcast: https://podcast.greatwomeninfraud.com/
Dan Ariely: https://danariely.com/
The Dishonesty Project: https://www.thedishonestyproject.com/film/
Pink Collar Crime: https://pinkcollarcrime.com/what-is-pink-collar-crime
How to Have a Good Day: Harness the Power of Behavioral Science to Transform Your Working Life by Caroline Webb: https://amzn.to/3eAaNhJ
Episode 33: Caroline Webb: Having a Good Day: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/caroline-webb-having-a-good-day/
Go Fraud Me: http://gofraudme.com/
Rita Crundwell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Crundwell
Talking to Strangers: What We Should Know about the People We Don't Know by Malcolm Gladwell: https://amzn.to/3i1sKGw
Duped: Truth-Default Theory and the Social Science of Lying and Deception by Timothy Levine: https://amzn.to/3ehpWUC
Big Little Lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Little_Lies_(TV_series)
Episode 86: Christian Hunt: Mitigating Human Risk and The Algorithmic Mind: https://behavioralgrooves.com/episode/christian-hunt-mitigating-human-risk-and-the-algorithmic-mind/
Behavioral Grooves Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
Musical Links
Foo Fighters “The Pretender”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ
Harold Van Lennep “Liberation”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEzMeDybBG0
Micheal Kiwanuka “Cold Little Heart”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOubjLM9Cbc&ab_channel=MichaelKiwanukaVEVO
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World of non-profits employees are underpaid a0nd0 0wear many ha0ts but I feel like she knew how valued she was and she was one of the higher paid in our small pet rescue. It turns out she was doing this because her boyfriend who we discovered was shady was pressuring her. It was one of the biggest disappointments of my carreer.
Thursday Sep 09, 2021
Fascinating stuff here... One of my biggest surprises came when on of my key employees and a person I liked and trusted began taking donations via checks and photoshopping them so she could alter them and deposit them to her personal account. I was gutted when one of my non-profit board members contacted me because her bank alerted her to the fact that her check was deposited twice - once to the organization's bank account and surprisingly once to the employees account. It's a given in the
Thursday Sep 09, 2021
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