
Stories, science and secrets from the world’s brightest thought-leaders. Behavioral Grooves is the podcast that satisfies your curiosity of why we do what we do. Explanations of human behavior that will improve your relationships, your wellbeing, and your organization by helping you find your groove.
Stories, science and secrets from the world’s brightest thought-leaders. Behavioral Grooves is the podcast that satisfies your curiosity of why we do what we do. Explanations of human behavior that will improve your relationships, your wellbeing, and your organization by helping you find your groove.
Episodes

3 days ago
3 days ago
Why do smart organizations become slow, bureaucratic, and resistant to change? Phil Le-Brun and Jana Werner, authors of The Octopus Organization, explore why so many companies fall into the trap of becoming “Tin Man Organizations” and what leaders can do instead. We discuss distributed decision-making, psychological safety, incentives, organizational learning, and why adaptability, not control, is often the key to long-term success.
Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Jana Werner and Phil Le-Brun
[9:25] What “Bulls!t Bingo” Reveals About Corporate Language
[17:18] Psychology as a Leadership Tool
[25:14] Explaining Octopus Organization
[32:10] Challenges of Tin Man Organizations
[39:13] The Role of Psychology for Transformation
[45:56] Complex vs Complicated Systems
[50:50] Building an “Octopus Soundtrack”
[54:13] Grooving Session: Incentives, Rewards, and Recreating Systems
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The Octopus Organization by Phil Le-Brun and Jana Werner
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7 days ago
7 days ago
In our June throwback episode (and in honor of Immigrant Heritage Month), we're revisiting our conversation with Marin Gonzalez about leadership, self-doubt, and the challenges of building a successful team. Martin shared with us his experience as both an immigrant and an entrepreneur, offering a candid look at how he overcame imposter syndrome, navigated uncertainty, and ultimately helped create organizational cultures where people could thrive. We loved the vulnerability, insights, and practical lessons Martin brought to our conversation, and we hope it inspires you to solve problems and find greater fulfillment in your professional life.
Topics
[5:58] Introduction and Speed Round
[10:16] What is a bonfire moment?
[14:02] Why soft skills are more important than soft skills
[17:54] Leadership styles and their impact on success
[22:37] Common start-up traps
[32:10] Startup myths, leadership, and best practices
[41:11] Overcoming blind spots and insecurities in leadership
[46:43] Imposter Syndrome and gender stereotypes
[55:04] Productivity, creativity, and music preferences
[1:01:14] Grooving Session: Leadership, emotional intelligence, and scaling business
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Monday Jun 08, 2026
Fame, Incels, and the Need to Matter | Rebecca Goldstein
Monday Jun 08, 2026
Monday Jun 08, 2026
Author Rebecca Newberger Goldstein joins us to explore “the mattering instinct,” the deeply human need to feel significant, worthy, and justified in our own eyes. From “mattering projects” and morality to fame, incels, AI, and entropy, this conversation dives into the psychological and philosophical forces shaping how we search for meaning and purpose in our lives.
Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Rebecca Goldstein
[7:12] What is the “Mattering Instinct”?
[11:57] Why Mattering Creates Conflict
[15:11] Depression, Despair, and Significance
[26:42] The Four “Mattering” Types
[32:34] Fame, Recognition, and Validation
[41:38] Incels, Radicalization, and the Search for Meaning
[46:19] Ethics, Entropy, and Human Flourishing
[51:59] Desert Island Music
[59:17] Grooving Session: Defining Mattering
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The Mattering Instinct by Rebecca Newberger Goldstein
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Monday Jun 01, 2026
The Hidden Rules of Lucky People | Judd Kessler
Monday Jun 01, 2026
Monday Jun 01, 2026
What if luck has less to do with chance and more to do with understanding the systems around us? We talk with Judd Kessler about the hidden markets shaping opportunities in everything from concert tickets and jobs to relationships and organ transplants. Together, we explore why so many systems feel unfair, how behavioral economics can improve them, and why learning the rules behind these invisible structures may be the key to getting a little luckier in life.
Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Judd Kessler
[13:18] The Hidden Markets Behind Organ Donation
[18:30] Market Design in Medicine
[29:13] How Incentives Work
[35:30] TSA PreCheck, Scarcity, and Making Better Systems
[40:14] The Ticketmaster Problem
[46:20] The Ticketmaster Solution
[53:34] Hidden Markets in Podcasts and Beyond
[59:18] “The Room Where it Happens” with Lin-Manuel Miranda
[1:05:30] Desert Island Music Picks
[1:08:00] Grooving Session: Creating Luck Wherever You Go
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Lucky by Design by Judd Kessler
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Monday May 25, 2026
How the Spaces Around Us Shape Our Lives | Leidy Klotz
Monday May 25, 2026
Monday May 25, 2026
Why do some spaces energize us while others drain us? This week, Leidy Klotz joins us to explore how our homes, workplaces, and everyday environments shape our behavior, creativity, and well-being. Drawing from his new book, In a Good Place, Leidy explains why humans crave agency, competence, and connection, and how the spaces around us can either support or suppress those needs.
Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Leidy Klotz
[11:01] The Concept of “Good Place”
[18:26] Psychological Needs and Space
[26:44] Making Purposeful Decisions for Spaces
[34:02] Designing Spaces for Growth and Belonging
[45:09] Creating Groovy Spaces
[50:03] Grooving Session: Practical Tips for Designing Better Spaces
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In a Good Place by Leidy Klotz
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Thursday May 21, 2026
Throwback Thursday: The #1 Way to Live a Happy Life | Shige Oishi
Thursday May 21, 2026
Thursday May 21, 2026
In this throwback episode, we're determined to be happy. Psychologist Shige Oishi joined us to explore the three dimensions of a fulfilling life: happiness, meaning, and psychological richness. He shared insights from decades of research into subjective well-being and revealed how personality traits, life experiences, and cultural contexts shape what we consider a “good life.” From challenging the “happiness trap” to embracing life’s rich diversity, this conversation is a roadmap for deeper self-reflection and greater fulfillment.
Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Shige Oishi
[10:28] The Happiness Trap
[18:38] Eudaimonic and Hedonic Approaches to Happiness
[27:30] The Correlation Between Psychological Richness and Personality
[35:00] Gratitude and Social Connection
[44:10] What Makes a Happy Society?
[48:00] Desert Island Music
[1:05:25] Grooving Session: How to Pursue a Fulfilling Life
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Life in Three Dimensions by Shigehiro Oishi
Happiness is Everything, or Is It?
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Monday May 18, 2026
Why We’re Lonely Together | Nick Epley
Monday May 18, 2026
Monday May 18, 2026
Why do we avoid talking to strangers when connection is exactly what we need most? This week, Nick Epley returns to explore the psychology of “under-sociality” and why we consistently underestimate how rewarding social interaction can be. Nick explains why even small moments of openness, from conversations with strangers to deeper honesty with the people around us, can dramatically improve happiness, trust, and belonging. Turns out, the biggest social risk often isn’t reaching out, it’s staying quiet.
Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Nick Epley
[10:40] The Paradox of Being Social
[19:12] Experiments and Findings
[26:20] How Being Social Impacts Your Health
[32:27] The Challenges of Being Social - Political Divides
[46:00] Introverts, Extroverts, and What Maslow Got Wrong
[54:30] Loneliness, Survival, and the Need to Belong
[1:02:18] Grief, Adoption, and the Power of Connection
[1:12:56] Desert Island Music
[1:15:42] Grooving Session: Leadership, Conversation, and Connection
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A Little More Social by Nick Epley
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Monday May 11, 2026
The Biggest Mistake We Make About Others - Behavioral Grooves LIVE
Monday May 11, 2026
Monday May 11, 2026
In this 500th episode celebration, we reflect on eight years of behavioral science insights, from habits and decision-making to why we so often misunderstand each other. Joined live by Nick Epley, we run a real-time experiment that reveals the gap between what we expect from conversations and what actually happens, and why asking better questions can transform how we connect.
Topics
[0:00] Eight Years, 500 Episodes, and Counting!
[6:28] Introducing Nick Epley
[11:24] Understanding Social Cognition
[15:32] Strategies for Improving our Communication
[21:36] Live Experiment - Talking to Strangers
[37:34] Lessons Learned from 8 Years Podcasting
[43:45] The Importance of Social Connections and Compassionate Curiosity
[51:00] Coming Soon to Behavioral Grooves
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Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again

Monday May 04, 2026
Why Don’t I Feel Loved? | Sonja Lyubomirsky
Monday May 04, 2026
Monday May 04, 2026
What if the issue isn’t whether people love you, but whether you actually feel it? In this episode, Sonja Lyubomirsky joins us to explore the gap between being loved and feeling loved, and why that disconnect happens. Drawing from her book How to Feel Loved, we talk about the psychology behind connection, challenge common myths like love languages, and dig into how curiosity, vulnerability, and better conversations can help you build more meaningful relationships.
Topics
[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Sonja Lyubomirsky
[11:08] Being Loved vs. Feeling Loved
[14:14] Why Love Doesn’t Always “Land”
[19:42] Deep Conversations vs. Small Talk
[23:47] Vulnerability: The Key to Real Connection
[32:01] What Are Love Mindsets?
[37:24] Psychological Barriers to Feeling Loved
[44:53] The #1 Happiness Tip
[50:51] Are Love Languages Real?
[53:23] Music, Focus, and Flow
[56:21] Grooving Session: Letting Love In
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How to Feel Loved by Sonja Lyubomirsky and Harry Reis
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Monday Apr 27, 2026
The Silent Killer in Your Workplace | Tom Rieger
Monday Apr 27, 2026
Monday Apr 27, 2026
Fear at work isn’t obvious, but it is powerful. In this episode, Tom Rieger explains how fear of loss drives silos, misalignment, and inefficiency, and why AI and remote work may be making things worse, instead of better.
Topics
[0:00] Introduction and Speed Round with Tom Rieger
[8:43] The Impact of Fear on Organizations
[16:26] Behavioral Economics and Organizational Fear
[23:39] The Role of AI in Organizational Fear
[31:25] The Challenge of Breaking Status Quo
[37:50] Advice to Managers and Leaders
[39:59] Desert Island Music
[43:24] Grooving Session: Breaking Fear Down
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Breaking the Fear Barrier by Tom Rieger
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