Anxiety in the workplace has always been present, even pre-pandemic but rates of anxiety, particularly among young employees, have worsened since 2020. So what obligation do organizations have to their employees' mental health? How can managers recognize the signs of anxiety, and how can we help our colleagues with those feelings?

Following our incredibly popular first episode with Chester Elton in July 2021, on showing gratitude (episode 238), we are thrilled to be talking with him again about anxiety in the workplace. As a best-selling author, speaker and executive coach, Chester, and his co-author Adrian have shown over and over again, that the key to really successful companies is really successful relationships with employees. And because of the pandemic, we wanted to talk with Chester about their most recent book; Anxiety at Work: 8 Strategies to Help Teams Build Resilience, Handle Uncertainty, and Get Stuff Done:

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(3:03) Speed round questions.

(5:30) Is anxiety in the workplace increasing or decreasing?

(10:11) How to manage with empathy, not just sympathy.

(14:59) Unleashing employees' potential.

(20:17) The number one cause of anxiety and how managers can recognize it.

(23:34) Showing vulnerability as a manager.

(29:12) Will people take advantage of mental health days off?

(32:07) How to deal with your own perfectionism and anxiety.

(36:57) The ways you can join Chester’s community.

(40:22) Chester’s anti-anxiety playlist.

(44:05) Chester’s kind promise to listeners.

(45:00) Grooving Session discussing how to apply Chester’s insight to our lives.

Books by Chester Elton and Adrian Gostick

Anxiety at Work: 8 Strategies to Help Teams Build Resilience, Handle Uncertainty, and Get Stuff Done:

Leading with Gratitude: Eight Leadership Practices for Extraordinary Business Results:

All In: How the Best Managers Create a Culture of Belief and Drive Big Results:

The Best Team Wins: The New Science of High Performance:

The Orange Revolution: How One Great Team Can Transform an Entire Organization:


Behavioral Grooves Patreon:

Chester Elton:

Chester Elton, Episode 238: Who Makes You Feel Grateful? Tell Them!

We Thrive Together: A safe community to talk about anxiety and stress with over 500 members.

Anxiety at Work with Adrian Gostick & Chester Elton:

The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse” by Charlie Mackesy: 

Nicole Malachowski: 

HR Leaders Podcast with Chris Rainey: 

Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, Episode 246: Are You More Honest with Google or Your Friends? 

The Heart of Business: Leadership Principles for the Next Era of Capitalism” by Hubert Joly: 

Garry Ridge at WD-40: 

Musical Links 

Pharrell Williams “Happy”:

Monty Python, Eric Idle “Always Look on the Bright Side of Life”: 

The Beatles “Good Day Sunshine”: 

The Beatles “Fixing A Hole”: 

What life habits keep our brain healthy? How does our mind respond to trauma? And why does the way we talk about suicide and mental health make such a difference to those who are struggling? We discuss all these topics with neuroscience researcher Dr Daniel Almeida.

To mark World Mental Health Day on Sunday, Oct 10, 2021, we decided to delve into the science behind mental health. And who better to help us with this topic than Daniel who has been named as one of Forbes 30 under 30 in science. His incredible work as a neuroscience researcher in the Douglas Research Centre at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, involves psychological autopsies to understand the molecular impacts of severe childhood abuse on the brains of individuals who died by suicide.

As you can imagine, this episode is full of difficult yet important topics. But what struck us most about Daniel was how upbeat and positive he is about his work and the difference it’s making to people’s lives. Daniel kindly shares his top 5 healthy brain habits that we can all adopt to improve our mental wellbeing. 

If you, or someone you know needs help with their mental health, please use one of the resources in the links below. 

Mental Health Support

Suicide Prevention Lifeline (US):

American Foundation for Suicide Prevention:

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration: National Helpline (US): 1-800-662-HELP (4357). SAMHSA’s National Helpline is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders. 

The Canada Suicide Prevention Service:

Samaritans (UK): 

United for Global Mental Health (List of support networks around the world): 

For those looking for information on how to support others:
For the general public looking to be trained in mental health first aid and/or suicide prevention:
Living Works (US): 
Mental Health First Aid Canada:


(6:29) Speed round.

(10:14) Does talking about suicide help?

(14:15) Why it’s very important to talk about “dying by suicide” instead of “committing suicide”.

(16:17) About Daniel’s work as a neuroscientist.

(17:47) What are the links between childhood trauma and suicide?

(25:16) What age are children most sensitive to the effects of trauma?

(31:19) How the type of trauma experienced by a child matters.

(33:36) How resilience is more like a sword than a shield.

(35:29) What are the 5 best brain health habits?

(41:57) What is a brain bank and how are psychological autopsies used?

(44:30) What music isn’t noise pollution for Daniel?

(46:24) Music and the brain.

(48:13) Grooving Session with Kurt and Tim; how to apply Daniel’s work to your life.

© 2021 Behavioral Grooves


World Mental Health Day: 

Leading Human™ Workbook and Playbook:

Leading Human™, Free Whitepaper Download:

Leading Human™ Workshop on Dec 14th, 2021 (more dates to be added soon):

Promo Code: GROOVERS to receive $20 off (limited time offer for listeners).

Episode 220: How Do You Become Influential? Jon Levy Reveals His Surprising Secrets:

Dr Brenda Mildner – Mother of Psychological worked on bilateral hypocantim removal:

Donald Hebb:,which%20was%20published%20in%201949. 

Molecular impacts of childhood abuse on the human brain”  Ibrahim, P.; Almeida, D.; Nagy, C.; Turecki, G. (2021): 

A Slice of the Suicidal Brain: What Have Postmortem Molecular Studies Taught Us?” Almeida, D. and Turecki, G. (2016): 

“What Happened to You?: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing”, by Oprah Winfrey and Bruce Perry: 

Brain structure of dancers and musicians

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Musical Links 

Gladys Knight & The Pips “Midnight Train to Georgia”: 

Whitney Houston “I Will Always Love You”: 

The Supremes “Where Did Our Love Go”: 

Stevie Wonder “As”: 

The clearest indicators of our financial solvency are based on the behaviors we exhibit with our investments. Dr. Daniel Crosby PhD is a psychologist, behavioral finance expert, asset manager and bestselling author of four books including “The Behavioral Investor”: We examine with him the question of whether financial success ultimately brings us happiness? Surprisingly it can, but not in the ways that we think it does. 

Having studied the growing list of 200 odd behavioral biases and heuristics, Daniel has whittled them down to what he describes as the four “Big Daddy” biases: ego, emotion, attention and conservatism. We learn about why these matter so much and interestingly what Coke Zero can teach us about our biases!

Daniel touches on his other bestselling book “You’re Not That Great”: which refreshingly embraces the fact that we are in fact all fairly average! That self esteem is built not by awarding prizes for participation, but by taking a risk, working hard and acknowledging that occasionally we will fall flat on our face along the way!

In our Grooving Session with Kurt and Tim, following our interview with Daniel we talk about the ways that we can apply Daniel’s insights to improve our wellbeing and our relationships. [Tim quotes the infamous “Man in the Arena '' quote from Theodore Roosevelt but apologies, we incorrectly credited the quote to Eisenhower, not Roosevelt in the episode.] 

If you would like to invest in the work that Behavioral Grooves does to bring you interviews like Daniels every week, please support our Patreon page: thank you.


(3:09) Welcome and speed round.

(5:51) Why understanding people is vital to understanding markets.

(8:20) Daniel's journey into behavioral finance.

(11:02) What behavioral finance can help with beyond your bank balance.

(15:17) Can money really boost our happiness?

(20:05) The benefits of embracing our mediocrity. 

(24:30) How stress impacts performance.

(26:58) Meta-biases: ego, promotion, attention, conservatism.

(31:09) What Coke Zero can teach us about conservatism bias.

(36:51) Ethics and behavioral finance.

(41:09) What music does Daniel invest in?

(48:44) Grooving Session on how to apply Daniel’s work in our own lives.


© 2021 Behavioral Grooves

Books by Daniel Crosby

The Laws of Wealth: Psychology and the secret to investing success:

The Behavioral Investor:

You're Not That Great:

Personal Benchmark: Integrating Behavioral Finance and Investment Management 


Van Leeuwen Ice Cream Honeycomb:

“Subjective Well-Being and Income: Is There Any Evidence Of Satiation?” Betsy Stevenson and Justin Wolfers (2013): 

The Psychology of Money: Timeless lessons on wealth, greed, and happiness” by Morgan Housel: 

Daniel Crosby TEDx:

Nudge: The Final Edition” by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein: 

Barry Ritholtz, Episode 47. How to Reduce Evolutionary Panic:

The Rocket City Trash Pandas:

Sludge: What Stops Us from Getting Things Done and What to Do about It” by Cass Sunstein: 

At Uber, a New C.E.O Shifts Gears, The New Yorker: 

Trevor Foulk episode (publishing at the end of Oct 2021)

Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, Episode 246.  Are You More Honest with Google or Your Friends?

Vanessa Bohns, Episode 253. Why You Don‘t Need to be Powerful to be Influential:

Ben Parr, Episode 237. Attention: How to Capture It and Keep It with Ben Parr:

Musical Links 

Phoebe Bridgers “Kyoto”:

Elliot Smith “Angeles”: 

Radiohead “Creep”: 

Arcade Fire “The Suburbs”: 

Father John Misty “Real Love Baby”: 

Vampire Weekend “This Life”: 

Run The Jewels “Legend Has It”:

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